Children of Men: Day Five

[lesbiassparrow]

NOooooooo. Do not let the government do it! Better to go down fighting - you know the 456 will be back again. And again. THEY'RE JUNKIES. THAT'S WHAT JUNKIES DOOOOOO.

In conclusion: Send the files! It would be better to die as a species than kill off the weakest members of your society like that.

ETA: I can't believe the PM is really pushing for Frobisher's kids. DO YOU NOT THINK THIS WILL COME BACK TO HAUNT YOU? EVEN THE WORM TURNS SOMETIMES.

ETA 2: Frobisher! Oh my bloody god. This show certainly isn't scared of going dark. Just when you think it can't get worse, it does.

ETA 3: YES YOU DO HAVE A CHOICE. IT'S JUST FUCKING EASIER TO THINK OTHERWISE. AND IT ALLOWS YOU TO FORGIVE YOURSELF AFTERWARDS.

ETA 4: If these episodes have taught me anything, then it has taught me that a) Torchwood is useless and b) Captain Jack is all talk but is also useless.

ETA 5: I HATE YOU JACK. IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT YOU AND YOUR FUCKING MANPAIN AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS WAS THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT.

ETA 6: Jack? Eternity as the Face of Boe is what you deserve. If only that horrible woman in the cabinet could be there with you.


I am not sure I can watch this any longer. For real.

This is perhaps the darkest and best SciFi I have ever seen. It's unspeakably horrible and brilliant and marvellous.

Comments

[lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com]

And you see how everyone creates their own stories that lets them sleep at night.

I HAVE NEVER HATED FICTIONAL CHARACTERS SO MUCH. And I am glad Ianto died because no one should have to watch this happen to anyone.

[kalliopeia.livejournal.com]

Oddly, I can't hate Jack. I remember John Barrowman saying he was really worried that people would hate Jack after they watched this. I have a weakness for utterly broken characters, I guess, I ended up loving him more than I ever had.

[lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com]

My sister is the same; she promised me I would not hate him at the end of this. And, yet, I can't help it: he was part of the first deal in the first place. Gah.

But he is at the end of list of other people. I've never seen so much innocuous looking evil on the screen at once. RTD must have spent a lot of time watching documentaries on the Nazis for this one.

[kalliopeia.livejournal.com]

I think I'm just so fascinated by Jack. Just, the inherent tragedy of what he is, and he's not a superhero, he's just a person who fucks up a lot. I don't know. I just can't help but love Jack, I just HURT for him so much.

And who'd have ever believed it would be Torchwood that did this? I loved the show, and I find it hard to believe.

[lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com]

I agree with you on Jack - I think with this they really did do something with exploring the character. What is it like to live forever when all you remember is an increasingly horrible past?

And, yes, if someone had told me before this that Torchwood was capable of doing this, I would have laughed at them. But, even though I never want to see this again, I want to buy the DVDs. Does that make sense?

[kalliopeia.livejournal.com]

It totally makes sense. You want to have this thing, even if you can't watch it, because it was so masterful. It's weird because I watched it all the week it aired in the UK, via downloads, and have been able to watch every episode again this week, even Ianto last night (though I did dissolve into choking, snorfling tears again, I won't lie), but I couldn't watch tonight's. I turned it on at the very end, right as Stephen is dying. I wanted to see the last scene again, as I think it might be my favorite scene from any tv show ever. John Barrowman was completely brilliant.

[lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com]

I feel bad for you re. Ianto but in terms of the character I think it would have killed him to see Jack make that choice. It was one of those shows where you think the dead are the lucky ones. In the end I kept thinking Gwen would be better off not facing the future, even with baby.

[kalliopeia.livejournal.com]

You're probably right. I just can't help but think....if Ianto hadn't died, Jack wouldn't have given up completely like he did (for awhile), and maybe might have had time to think of another way. But, maybe not.

I wish that Dekker guy would have died. How unfair is it that HE was the only one from Thames House to live?? HIM and not Ianto!

[lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com]

With Dekker I was thinking that it was true to life: it's not decent people trying to do the right thing that survive but the bureaucrats who disavow all responsibility. Because they never risk themselves.

(Also: I have been watching Spooks/MI-5 and a mad virus would be a great relief for Tom Quinn and Lucas Shaw's manpain. They'd probably welcome it.)

[kalliopeia.livejournal.com]

It was totally true to life, it just pissed me off. :) He was so vile, almost gleeful about the prospect of Stephen dying.

[lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com]

A bit like how that horrible woman was when she came up with the 'solution' for where to get the kids. I have an intense hatred for so many people in this it scares me.