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So, I am trying to think of scenes where characters who have embarked on or committed some dreadful crime just embrace that and their slide towards evilness. Even going bwahhahaha would be good as would rubbing hands with glee after embracing their inner evil.

The more pop culture the better. All I keep coming up with is Richard III.

Date: 2008-03-31 03:57 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com
Faith? in Buffy, that is. She pretty much went all Evil Badass.

Date: 2008-03-31 04:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com
Ooh yes. But does she have one scene where that gets distilled? It was more her going to Buffy about how they could do anything from what I remember. Plus the Mayor. But then he was always evil.

(I'm looking for this for a comparative with an ancient text for a class. I just wondering if we do that sort of thing in one scene anymore.)

Date: 2008-03-31 04:16 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com
hrm. Perhaps the scene with her torturing Wesley in Angel is the closest to a single scene? Or the bit at the beginning, with her punching everyone...

Date: 2008-03-31 04:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zandra-x.livejournal.com
Mr. Burns from "The Simpsons".

Date: 2008-03-31 11:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com
He does do a good hand rub. But do we ever find if he was ever non-evil? I like to think of him as like Athena, coming into this world fully formed in his chicanery...

Date: 2008-03-31 05:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] calixa.livejournal.com
Maybe Light Yagami from Death Note?

Date: 2008-03-31 11:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com
I do not know this person or this Death Note you speak of.

Date: 2008-04-01 01:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-dian.livejournal.com
Death Note is a Japanese thriller movie.

Date: 2008-04-01 02:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com
I shall have to seek this out now. Thanks!

Date: 2008-03-31 06:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-dian.livejournal.com
Well I dunno about pop culture but the Evil Hwachun Elder in The Legend embraces his evilness so very well. Scenes from ep 1 to the very end involving him would totally prove that :D

Date: 2008-03-31 11:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com
I really have to watch The Legend. It promises many fine things - including now an evil Elder.

Date: 2008-04-01 01:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-dian.livejournal.com
Oh you should. You won't regret it :D

Date: 2008-03-31 06:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lage-nom-ai.livejournal.com
Satan? :D

Various of Magneto's henchmen in the XMen comics and movies--from the movies, that Pyro kind would be a good one, maybe.

Various incarnations of the Joker.

Fight Club?

Date: 2008-03-31 11:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com
I've never seen Fight Club. My not liking of Brad Pitt conflicts with my liking of Edward Norton. Would I hate it?

Pyro is good, though, because he does have that one great going for evil scene in the second movie.

Date: 2008-04-01 07:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lage-nom-ai.livejournal.com
Well, I hate Fight Club and I do quite like both Brad Pitt and Edward Norton. But it might make for a good example since the guys gleefully embrace this self-destructive/killer behaviour...

Date: 2008-04-02 12:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com
I actually ended up having a really good class discussion about it (this was a comparative thing for an ancient text). They could come up with surprisingly few examples that really worked but it was fun talking about why we don't really write our villains as self-aware that much. Or, at least, not as this particular type of self-aware.

Date: 2008-03-31 01:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deborah-judge.livejournal.com
Brother Justin in Carnivale.

Date: 2008-03-31 11:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com
I've never watched Carnivale beyond bits of episodes. Is there a good paradigmatic scene that you'd suggest? Or is all through the show?

Date: 2008-04-01 01:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deborah-judge.livejournal.com
Hm...I don't remember a scene, I watched it a while ago. His character arc is basically - he's a preacher who really wants to do good but everything he does gets people killed, and eventually he concludes that God really wants him to be evil. It's kinda cool.

Date: 2008-03-31 07:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sassachusetts.livejournal.com
Dan Scott! He's a character on One Tree Hill and his evilness is responsible for any non-boring parts of the show, which normally is just a crappy teen soap. He's never not blackmailing someone or trying to ruin their life or sometimes even murdering them. Pretty much very time you think he's going to repent, he pauses, thinks about it, and then does something even worse.

Oh, and Tanya Turner from Footballers' Wives -- the part after she almost kills the manager of her husband's team. Only I think her inches-long talons would get in the way of any rubbing of hands.

Date: 2008-03-31 11:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com
Dan Scott sounds quite wonderful. I would totally have watched One Tree Hill had I known it had someone like that. Why did no one tell me?

Date: 2008-04-01 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sassachusetts.livejournal.com
It's unfortunate that they don't target the older trash TV-loving demographic and instead spend most of their advertising budget on pictures of the koala-faced lead, because Dan is the Platonic ideal of the magnificent bastard. I mean, I had no idea either until I came across a rerun a few months ago, and I live for that kind of thing.

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