lonely shipping on BSG

[lesbiassparrow]

It's not so much that they are my OTP but I do like the idea of Lee/Laura. But it's a lonely ship - even though I am getting good at hunting down those who aren't horrified by the very idea.

Yet I have no idea why I am so fond of this pairing. It's not like I am appalled by Lee/Kara, it's more that I think that together they would take the edge off each other. The same goes for Laura/Adama. When these pairings are at odds I think they have more potential for good stories and interesting conflict.

Besides I am inordinately fond of Laura Roslin and I think she deserves the best. And the best in this case is Captain Apollo.

ETA: I'm on Spring break! For two weeks! After hideous Terence article is finished and almost equally hideous conference paper is over with I will be free to read the 10 foot pile of books that I've accumulated. And to watch all the rubbish TV that I want. And drink copiously. Hooray for me!

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[ehab-it.livejournal.com]

Although I don't love the pairing, I see the potential. I wouldn't mind a fling for the two of them.

And I agree whole -heartedly with the idea that Laura deserves a love interest. I've been shipping her and the Colonial One Captain ever since she held his hand in the mini, pathetic I know. Crumbs!

Upshot, I think my ship is lonlier than yours. Heck I think my love interest may not even be in the cast any longer.

Enjoy Spring break!

[lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com]

Maybe there should be a support group online for those who are lonely shippers? People could challenge each other to see who had the least popular 'ship.

I'm going to have to go back and rewatch the mini (I just bought it) to see if I feel the magic of the hand-holding moment. Maybe you'll convert me.

[ehab-it.livejournal.com]

I think the same dynamic Apollo had with her in the mini, where he immiediately understood and respected her, the Colonial One Captain had as well, to a smaller degree.

Besides the hand holding, it was the little subtlties, the fact that the captain listened to her, followed her direction unquestioningly, looked to her for advice, and was so respectful when he brought her the news that she was President. I think Apollo got a more significant portion of these types of scenes with her, but the closeness in age with the other captain, drew me to him first.

Plus I like the idea of an angst-free relationship for Laura. She's earned it. A relationship with Apollo would not be angst-free, not by a long shot. However, much as I think Kara being involved with Adama would ratchet up the angst for Lee, his sleeping with Laura would ratchet up the angst for Adama and Kara. Any of the scenarios would probably have me riveted.

[lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com]

Because I should not be wasting time, I (of course) rewatched the miniseries. And I totally see the Laura/Captain potential. Maybe they're having a mad, angst-free relationship off screen and that's why she's so calm most of the time?

[kuwdora.livejournal.com]

Laura Roslin is one of the strongest and most independent women I've ever seen. from my perspective, she doesn't need a man.

however, they're nice to snuggle with.

But I see what you mean. I'm not horrified. It's apparent that Roslin trusts Lee perhaps more than anybody else in the fleet for his unbiased(?) view on things.

I think I would need a little bit more convincing before I could clearly see the potential between the two.

now Laura and Adama - I lvoe when they're butting heads. Its so.. grimy and down to it! They're both leaders, and both use to gettnig their own way, so it's definately a neat dynamic, fo' sure.

[lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com]

I totally agree she doesn't need a man. But in Scifi I'm always wary of the Janeway effect, i.e. the belief that if you have a female in charge she must be chaste, because women who have relationships (insert irony here) can't possibly lead as well.

I'm going to have come up with a list of ready reasons at some point why I think Lee/Laura click. At the moment it's rather nebulous for me.

[labellamafia494.livejournal.com]

Dude, there's a Laura/Lee fanfic group on yahoo. And I've seen a lot around other lists and groups. A LOT of people. At first I even thought the Lee/Laura shippers outnumbered the Kara/Lee ones. You're not alone. ;-) Although ITA, they are very, very sparce on LJ land. There's also the L/L section at bsgfanfic03.com


I'm not, personally, although my guilty pleasure is Adama/Roslin with Lee jealous. *g*

[lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com]

Thanks for the heads up about the other groups - it's lonely out here on LJ land as a Lee/Laura shipper. A bit like being a prophet crying into the wilderness. Without the actually being a prophet thing. And the wilderness part. Oh well, I take my similes from where I can.

Your guilty pleasure sounds fun. Do you have a link for a fanfic that brings up this scenario, she asks in hope?

[labellamafia494.livejournal.com]

Your guilty pleasure sounds fun. Do you have a link for a fanfic that brings up this scenario, she asks in hope?
I do, I do, it's actually the one that hooked me to the guilty pleasure in the first place. ;) here (http://www.bsg03fanfic.com/StoriesFolder/mondav_the_troubles_of_the_day.htm)

[lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com]

Oh thanks so much!

[labellamafia494.livejournal.com]

That would be www.bsg03fanfic.com, sorry. *facepalm*

[ingrid-m.livejournal.com]

Just here to comment on your icon. *loves*

Did you know that Swingline didn't have red staplers, but after this movie came out they started making them? Cool, right?

[lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com]

Thanks - I got it from another person a while back, so I can't claim credit for it. And I didn't know that about the staplers. Now I am unhappy with my white swingline...

[aikakone.livejournal.com]

Ooh, I saw "Lee/Laura" in someone else's journal. I'm a sucker for it. :D

Of course my shippy thing is that I can't do anything normally. I don't consciously try to be different, so I must conclude that I am different. In Angel or Buffy my ship choices were different, too.

I think the only traditional and conventional ship choice I've ever had was John and Delenn from Babylon 5.

By the way, I'm still working on the Laura/Kara bit. It's going pitifully slowly, but I have something.

[lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com]

I await the Laura/Kara eagerly.

And the wierd thing is that normally I ship the obvious and conventional couples; my exception is BSG and Angel. It makes like much more difficult.

[aikakone.livejournal.com]

Eh... I tell you what. I'll go c&p it into your PMs at ST. It's short, and I guess part of the reason I'm stuck on it is that it just looks like something I'd write... like it's full of me-cliches and just reminds me of other stuff I've written.

[thepouncer.livejournal.com]

I've been a Lee/Laura shipper from the moment he said, "The lady's in charge" in the miniseries. You are not alone!

[lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com]

Ah, great moments in the miniseries. I think it was that keeps me interested in the potential, as lately on the US schedule they haven't had a huge amount of interaction.

And I love your icon.

[k-julia.livejournal.com]

It's funny how most people who like that ship seem to think they're the only ones at first, me included.

I still can't really put into words why this ship works so well for me -- I don't think they're madly in love in canon, but if you could get them there, oh, it would be so good...

I fell hard and fast for Roslin from the moment she took the pilot's hand on Colonial One. And then only a couple of scenes later Lee goes from not even adressing her, but rather a fellow pilot, when he comes in, to "The lady's in charge." And that was probably that. :-) Just left me wondering if I was completely weird, as I'm not used to falling for the unconvential pairings at all.

[lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com]

It's great to know I'm not insane either and that there are other people who see this too. Hopefully we're not all collectively insane ;-).

And I obviously agree about the potential they have as a couple - I don't expect to see it on screen but fanfic is another matter.

[desire-of-mind.livejournal.com]

I love Laura/Lee. It's so unconventional, yet ridiculously hot. And I was really hoping they'd go for this on the show because...you know what? TV needs more unconventionality.

And as for the fact that people are all squick about it...what's wrong with an older woman/youger man pairing? *That* makes me mad; the whole double standard .

[charis]

As one of the people who finds this relationship vaguely squicky, I do have to jump in here: for me, it's not the older woman / younger man thing that gets me at all -- I have no issues with that, actually. For me, it's the mom vibe I feel there -- and it may be a perspective thing, it may be partly Jamie Bamber's comments in at least one interview on that vein (I forget if it was there or one one of the Lowdowns or what ... meh), but it's that which makes me kind of cringe.

(And that was, honestly, before I really liked the idea of her and his father, so ... I guess I could say that didn't affect my opinion, or at least its origins.)

[lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com]

I can see if you get a mother vibe it would be a bit disturbing. I don't at all, so it's not a problem for me. I guess I like the potential for shifting power dynamics and conflict if Lee slept with the other (civilian) camp. If he's with Starbuck it lessens the chance for that to my mind. Plus I find that to me Lee and Laura have great chemistry - and not in an Oedipal way :-).

On the other hand there's such a paternal vibe in the Commander Adama relation with Starbuck that I'm a) not keen at all on an Adama/Kara pairing and also not hugely keen on a Lee/Kara pairing as they seem more like sibling because of that relationship. They're not sibling like enough to squick me out at the very idea of the pairing, but it's enough that I don't find myself terribly interested in seeing them together. I'd need to see a huge rift between Starbuck and the commander to happen before I'd go down that path.

[charis]

I guess I take your point on Kara and Lee, though I have male friends I'd say I'm almost as close with and don't have a sibling vibe with. And -- well, I think there's plently of tension with Lee's associations with the civilian camp without "sleeping with the enemy".

Kara / Adama = squick, though.

(Again, I'm a not-so-secret Roslin / Adama shipper, so ... yeah. And not having constant internet makes for really bad replying times to these things.)

[lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com]

It's not so much the closeness as them having the same father figure; but with Starbuck heading off to Caprica in KLG1 there's a rift now that might shift the dynamics.

And while I (obviously) like Lee/Laura as an idea and think there's some great chemistry there, I don't run in horror from any of the other pairings really. Actually in most of my fandoms I'm a total shipper slut - I'll read pretty much anything with any pairing as long as it's well written. (Though I'll obviously tend towards my favourite pair).

That said, Kara/Adama does repell me somewhat.