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From Bill Maher, deep thoughts about why some men NEED hookers

"Studies show (OK, I'm making that up, but it's true nonetheless) that people married 20 years only have sex on Valentine's Day, their anniversary, and their birthdays. You can hate me as the messenger, but it's true -- how can anyone be expected to still want to score with someone you've been having sex with for a score? Mr. Spitzer simply wanted what humans desire, to feel that sensational sensation when you're hot for someone, to touch and hug and bump and grind -- this is really not that complicated! If you're ascribing more to it than that, it's probably really more about your own fear that your spouse wants to do the same thing."

"Married people are often starved for sex, touch, affection, not to mention the kinky stuff that wifey definitely won't do."

(The rest of his short piece is here )

I. HAVE. NO. WORDS. Wives! Those crones who won't give it up and if they do, it's just plain vanilla. What's a man to do? Well, luckily, he can always pay a woman not much older than his daughters to have sex. And anyone who has a problem with that? Plain old hypocrite or fantasist.

From the comments on the piece:

"I'm with you Bill. I sat through a painful analysis by some "expert" (who looked rather like a hooker herself) last night on the news" [Ah, women, if you're done up you're trying too hard, and if you don't look good...well, your husband will end up with the HOOKERS BECAUSE YOU MADE HIM.]

"Even Jesus Christ would have been shocked at the childish and foolish reactions of the American press to the expose on Governor Eliot Spitzer's private romance with a professional mistress." [It's not a ROMANCE. It's an (sorry, but this is true) unattractive man paying to have sex with a woman 20 years younger than him and wanting to do things that weren't 'safe.']

And! If one more person mentions Europe, the place where lucky men can do it with their young mistresses and everyone just shrugs, I will explode. What fantasy Europe have they encountered? Is there some alternative reality Europe run for middle-aged and frumpy male politicians that they alone have access to?



I am sorry that I have temporarily suspended talking about Bad Love and the sweet crack of Korean dramas. Once I have stopped frothing it will be back to your regularly scheduled evidence of my lack of taste in TV.

Date: 2008-03-12 11:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meyerlemon.livejournal.com
He is a lousy man who will die alone. That's the one thing you can say about wives: they may not be HOT 'N SEXY after forty years, but they'll fucking show up at your deathbed.

Date: 2008-03-12 11:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com
Maybe he'll pay a hooker some money to wail over his corpse. And then she can steal everything that isn't nailed down.

Date: 2008-03-13 12:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meyerlemon.livejournal.com
There are always (well-founded. actually.) rumors here that he likes to fuck really young ladies and made one of them get an abortion.

NICE.

He's a miserable little toad and I don't understand why he has made a career out of being a sanctimonious prick, or why ANY WOMAN would have sex with him.

Date: 2008-03-12 11:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Personally, I don't care if a politician cheats on his wife. As long as he does what I want him to, while in office, I don't care if he is a slimebag (I operate from presumption they all are, anyway).

HOWEVER:

A. Spitzer totally tried to have a reputation of holier-than-though. Thus, my shadenfreude.

B. "Married people are often starved for sex, touch, affection, not to mention the kinky stuff that wifey definitely won't do."

Ummm. Leaving aside the fact that the above is WRONG, I would think the solution to that is to work on the marriage. I mean, it's one thing not to care your elected official is a slimebag, another to claim he isn't one but a poor misunderstood woobie who should be given candy and call-girls to comfort his slimy heart.

C. I loooove alternative language. "Romance" = "sex for money" and "professional mistress" means "Hooker." But boy, suddenly how much more fancy it gets when you pay a lot.

This said, I am so amused he was 'gotten' under the unfortunately named Mann Act. I mean, it was passed in 1910, with alternate name of 'White Slave Traffic Act' and was to prevent those evil city men from luring poor little innocent Iowa farmgirls into brothels. IMO, it would also be found unconstitutional if really challenged in court, but that is probably why they never prosecute anyone under it, just use it as a federal hook to get involved. Heh.

Date: 2008-03-13 12:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com
work on the marriage

No! You can't do that! Everyone knows that that's how marriage is. You get stuck with this woman who grows old on you and then won't have sex! The only refuge is hookers and it's a cold unfeeling world that judges you for using them! Even though it's totally romantic to pay for sex.

I'm not normally that phased on the private lives of politicians but I do think that if you're a complete wanker to your nearest and dearest you're probably not going to be someone who is that good to other people. Which may be describing all politicians but I like to nurture some few tiny illusions...

Date: 2008-03-13 12:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raincitygirl.livejournal.com
Is Bill Maher married? If so, I hope his wife plans to use condoms every time she has sex with him until one of them dies. He just went on national television and warned her that when he gets bored, he'll play around. Bad enough to be cheated on, but getting an STD from your partner would be the final insult. Um, and Maher also went on national television and stated that he has boring sex with his wife. Unless of course, he's single, in which case I hope any prospective Mrs. Mahers take a look at his statements and run like hell.

Date: 2008-03-13 12:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com
I don't know if he's married, but I bet if he is he'd just insist to her that he's just telling her like it is and she should thank him for being so honest. And if wifey can't handle it then she should be sexier and do whatever he wants.

Date: 2008-03-13 12:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oxymoron67.livejournal.com
No, he isn't married. When you see him make comments like the above, it's doesn't really come as a surprise, does it?

Date: 2008-03-13 12:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
I feel you should avoid this topic in the future, before the sexism kills you. Or you are understandably driven to do commit a crime.

Unless you just like using the icon.

Date: 2008-03-13 08:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com
I plan on looking at nothing but pictures of puppies and kdrama news tomorrow.

Date: 2008-03-13 01:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seven-trees.livejournal.com
You know I've already written TWO rage filled paragraphs on how that worm of a man pisses me off and twice I've gotten them erased.

I'll make this quick then.

People's responses to this piss me off. It's not the wife's fault that the worm cheated. If you have a problem in your marriage either work at it or get a divorce. Don't go out and fuck a hooker. I think by doing the latter he's basically saying that his wife is there just to make him look good in front of the public and to pop out kids for him. She's not important enough to get him to try and work at his marriage and she's not important enough to get him to suffer through the media backlash of a public divorce either.

Again, the guy is a worm.

Date: 2008-03-13 08:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com
WORD. There are few words for how I feel about this whole thing and some of the commentary. Plus the assertions by some that if you are offended then you're some repressed hypocrite who should just get over yourself.

Apart from anything else, the stuff it says about his view of women is enough to make me want to scream... GAH.

Date: 2008-03-13 02:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seven-trees.livejournal.com
I don't even know why I keep reading comments about this. I keep clicking on links about this going "Oh! Maybe someone will actually say something that makes sense." But dammit all I hear is about how these pigs are coming up to defend this bastard saying that everyone is overreacting and why oh why couldn't they have been born in Fantasy Europe, where it's perfectly fine for a man to cheat on his wife with a hooker.

(I don't even get that thing about Europe. I just keep imagining Europeans reading about this and going all "WTF? What are those crazy American saying now?" )

Date: 2008-03-13 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com
I think (looking at some of the comments) they get it from 2 examples in France. One of which is Nicolas Sarzozy. But, much as I despise the guy, I think they miss the point that he was actually divorced before Bruni. She wasn't his mistress, she was his girlfriend (and his second wife was the one who had the affair, not him, as far as I know). It's hardly a good parallel for Spitzer but they see this guy with a hot woman and think 'hey! Mistress!'

Date: 2008-03-13 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seven-trees.livejournal.com
I think I'm just going to stop reading about this whole scandal. Everything is just making me so incoherent with rage that I can barely spell things correctly. I just know that if I keep on reading the next thing I'll post will just be a long list of exclamation marks.

Date: 2008-03-13 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seven-trees.livejournal.com
Aw hell, why did it this get posted together with the Cedric-as-Edward icon?

Date: 2008-03-13 06:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caerbannog.livejournal.com
Maher has made a career of making contrarian statements like that. Occassionally he says something that makes sense, but a lot of the time (like this), he's just talking out of his ass. I think he's a libertarian, which just goes to prove my theory that libertarians are crazy.

Bad Love is now constantly on in my house. I was shocked to see that Crazy Hair had apparently passed her big hair genes onto her child. That looks really wrong on a small child.

Date: 2008-03-13 08:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com
Bad Love is great. And the mum has totally molded that kid into a wee version of herself: she goes around looking winsome and then guilting people out for not treating her crazy gianthaired mother well.

Though I am horrified by the attempts in the last few episodes to say that she's not that bad! She hates puppies! She beats people up when they catch her shoplifting and then calls it an 'illness.'

Have you got to the bit where she sits at home rocking backwards and forwards swearing revenge on the heroine? How is this not call the asylum behaviour? But people just go 'oh well, she's just taking it hard.'!!!!!

Date: 2008-03-13 08:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caerbannog.livejournal.com
I haven't gotten to see any fun craziness or puppy-kicking yet. Whenever it's on, when I happen to be in the same room, the Main Hero is crying. Without fail. I don't think I've seen that actor in any other drama he's done where he wasn't crying either.

Date: 2008-03-13 08:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com
It's probably in his contract or something. Though I think he dries out a bit towards the end. You have to watch her introductory scene (in the first episode)! You get to see her hit someone one the head with a mirror! I'll see if I can find it on youtube.

Date: 2008-03-13 09:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com
It's at about 5.40 into this.

Date: 2008-03-13 09:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caerbannog.livejournal.com
OMFG! I knew it was coming and I was still shocked. That poor salesgirl didn't know what she was getting into.

Date: 2008-03-13 11:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com
Don't you like the crazy lip tremble thing she does just before she hits the salesgirl? And clearly she's been doing this for ages and the family has been paying people off like this is just some minor foible.

Date: 2008-03-13 06:39 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] leia-naberrie.livejournal.com
From Bill Maher, deep thoughts about why some men NEED hookers

The stupid of that sentence alone almost made my head explode.

Date: 2008-03-13 08:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com
Everything about that tiny piece made my head hurt. What sort of self-absorbed jerk takes that message away from all of this? ARRRRHGGHH!!!

I am now going to just read about puppies for the next week before I go off the edge into madness.

Date: 2008-03-13 03:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cbackson.livejournal.com
Erm...he needs to meet my parents, then. Thirty-nine years of marriage, and I happen to know (small house, thin walls) that they're still quite happy with each other.

Date: 2008-03-13 05:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com
Pshaw! Everyone knows it's the truth!! You just deny it because you are a female who wants to deny men their hookers! Next thing you'll be taking bread from their mouths by wanting a job too.

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